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Lloyd Hemstreet's avatar

Hi Kent,

Thanks for jotting down your thoughts. I certainly haven't agreed with everything, and your missing a bit in my estimation, but it is still interesting to get your perspective on some of the events in the CRCNA over the last few years. However, this post particularly had a number of errors that I specifically wanted to try and clarify some of.

1. Presidents can't/Chad didn't cease debate (he proposed it, and Synod voted to cease debate). Just as calling the question doesn't close the speaker queu, Synod has to vote in favor of closing the queu, the President can merely make the proposal without waiting in the queu themselves, but Synod always decides.

2. Officers can serve on Advisory Committees, but being an officer pulls them out of a lot of those duties (thus, when I personally am deciding who I want to vote for for as an officer of Synod, this is one of my biggest narrowing criteria, passed the "who do I think is capable of leading well" question).

3. The President does not generally vote (maybe in a tie breaker if needed, I don't know), however the rest of the officers still vote (they are all duly sent delegates of Synod).

4. The officers can all speak to motions, they just don't do so from their position of officer. They get in the queu, like the rest of the delegates, and go down to the floor to speak (even the President in theory could do so, just by relinquishing the chair for that matter). Last year, as you pointed out, Paul spoke, but had already relinquished the chair for that part of the meeting as he was on the in-loco committee. However, he did not speak as a member of that committee, but rather as a delegate (which was absolutely his right and prerogative). But earlier in Synod, at other points of the proceedings, both of First (Henry) and Second (Richard) Clerks spoke to other motions (Chad was the only officer that didn't speak, and that is traditional protocol that they don't speak, but not a rule).

5. Cedric already corrected some of your overstatement of what the Program Committee does. Delegates each pick their preferred committees or two when they register, and then Synodical Services has a whole list of how people are assigned. I'm guessing the program committee actually adjust only a small fraction of what the system already puts in place.

6. Derek Buikema never served on the Abide Steering Committee. I was on the ballot for the original Steering Committee (Aaron Vriesman beat me out for our region), but Derek has never even been on a ballot, let alone served on the Abide Steering Committee.

7. Patrick Anthony wrote for Abide after Synod 2023 (maybe we are too "mid-west" focused, but I don't think any of the Abide leaders knew him at all before serving with him last Synod).

8. Scott Greenway, when I first heard he was delegated through the grapevine in February, was who I thought most likely to serve as President (however, I didn't know that Jose was also delegated back then).

9. Henry Kranenburg served as a Second Clerk before, and First Clerk last year (which I voted for him last year, but probably wouldn't again this year).

10. For inexperienced officers, I believe in 2022, Jose was the only DELEGATE that had served as an officer before. So having 5 with experience to choose from gives far more than some synods have.

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Susan LaClear's avatar

My understanding is that they also can’t add delegates from a classis that has submitted overtures that will be handled by a particular advisory committee to that committee. That means the many delegates whose classes submitted overtures about gravamina can’t serve on that committee. Another layer of difficulty in choosing who goes where that could be mistaken as bias, but its just part of good process

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