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The Old Paths's avatar

Could it be that your discomfort with the thought of attending black church was actually caused by your anti-racism training rather than revealed by it? I once brought a group of white people (high school students and their parents) from my church in Escalon (not much different than Lyndon) to a black church in Compton during a mission trip. It was so fun. We were welcomed with open arms. Literally, they hugged us and squeezed us into their packed sanctuary. We weren't black or white. We were just a bunch of Christians worshipping our king. Could it be that anti-racism training actually makes one racist.

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Have you come upon disagreements at the theoretical level in your group, and if so, how were they addressed? I'm thinking, e.g., a conversation with someone who rejects the critical theoretical structure underlying -- or at least giving teeth to -- concepts regarding privilege, systemic racism, and the like. That's not very clear. Sorry about that. I'll try again.

First, I should preface by saying that this is surely an unfair question, given how broad and intractable it seems to be, but it's something I've been trying to work through on my own over the last decade or so, and haven't made heads or tails of it. I worry that the emotional and political nature of the central concerns make for very difficult waters. The question is this:

How do we adjudicate between competing hermeneutical or theoretical approaches to this question? It's difficult enough in other, less charged, fields, but people make attempts. I'm thinking, e.g., about metaethical criticisms of consequentialism that quantifying happiness, suffering, pleasure, etc., is conceptually impossible. The attempt is to show that consequentialism fails on its own grounds, which, if true, gives some reason to consider whether one should adopt it. I've read interesting pieces with similar approaches to originalism in law.

Are there similar discussions happening here? If not, then I worry that we've got (at least) two sides, each begging the question at the theoretical level, talking past one another about very real issues with very real consequences. I'm hoping you've had some experience with this in your group, which seems at least possible given the diversity you mention it enjoys above.

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